The Search Lounge http://www.searchlounge.org Here in the lounge you'll find my subjective, though hopefully useful, reviews of Internet search engines. Enjoy! Copyright 2006 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:10:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.2.1 Daily Searchcast comments about my comment http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=79 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=79#comments Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:07:19 +0000 General http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=79 There I was walking around and innocenty listening to the Daily Searchcast, when I heard Danny Sullivan talking about the little snippet I wrote about the show a few days ago. It's in the February 7 show. Actually he doesn't say much other than to joke about ... There I was walking around and innocenty listening to the Daily Searchcast, when I heard Danny Sullivan talking about the little snippet I wrote about the show a few days ago. It’s in the February 7 show.

Actually he doesn’t say much other than to joke about me complaining about the length of the shows. (And to point out the awful comment spam I get. Arg! I need to get a new comment spam filter in place.)

I still hold by my idea that a shorter show would get me to listen everyday!

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Gary Price Joins Ask Jeeves http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=78 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=78#comments Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:53:02 +0000 General http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=78 Congratulations to Ask Jeeves on hiring Gary Price, long-time writer for Search Engine Watch and creator ofResourceShelf. From the press release, his title will be Director of Online Information Resources. That's a pretty vague title for a search company, but apparently he "will lead Ask Jeeves' outreach efforts ... Congratulations to Ask Jeeves on hiring Gary Price, long-time writer for Search Engine Watch and creator ofResourceShelf. From the press release, his title will be Director of Online Information Resources. That’s a pretty vague title for a search company, but apparently he “will lead Ask Jeeves’ outreach efforts within the library and education communities and will play an advisory role in the development of new search products for Ask Jeeves.” Cool!

In his own words:

“I’ve been asked (no pun intended) to do several things including:

1) Outreach to the library and education communities

++ This means a lot of things including doing what I’ve been doing (training, conference presentations, etc.).

++ Working closely with leaders of both communities to make Ask Jeeves a product that librarians and educators can count on.

++ A conduit (a person on the “inside” if you prefer) for these communities and from companies who serve these markets to share their ideas and services. What can we do better? How can we improve and meet your needs? We’re here to listen. Perhaps a service that librarians would find useful is already out there and we can work to bring the two sides together. It would be exciting to leverage what librarians and libraries already offer and make them more readily accessible to the public on AJ.”

It’s great to see librarians continue to be hired by search companies and I’ll be curious to see what comes of this hire.

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Daily Searchcast http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=77 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=77#comments Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:35:04 +0000 General http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=77 The Daily SearchCast is a podcast featuring Danny Sullivan's views on the latest search news. I like that each daily podcast is annotated so you can preview the topics before listening to the whole thing. I grab these podcasts on my Zen Creative if I'm going for a walk or ... The Daily SearchCast is a podcast featuring Danny Sullivan’s views on the latest search news. I like that each daily podcast is annotated so you can preview the topics before listening to the whole thing.

I grab these podcasts on my Zen Creative if I’m going for a walk or a jog or to the gym. Rather than reading the daily headlines I can listen to them. But on days when I do read the headlines I don’t bother with the podcast. Doing both takes too much time and is redundant.

Generally I like the podcasts but they could be cut from 10-15 minutes (or sometimes more like 20 or 30 minutes) to about 5 minutes each day. Less joking around by the guys and more news! They also run ads at the beginning of the show, but it’s easy to fast-forward past those, which I guess is an advertising flaw. The conversational format is sometimes awkward, but hopefully over time the guys will settle in and get more comfortable with it.

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Valleywag http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=76 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=76#comments Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:13:38 +0000 General http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=76 Bored with reading press releases from search engines and other tech companies? Head over to Valleywag to get the latest gossip on executive dating and other juicy tidbits. Although, like everywhere else these days, most stories about G, there are other topics that get some coverage, such as ... Bored with reading press releases from search engines and other tech companies? Head over to Valleywag to get the latest gossip on executive dating and other juicy tidbits. Although, like everywhere else these days, most stories about G, there are other topics that get some coverage, such as Larry Ellison, Y!, Ask, etc.

It’s sort of interesting to me as a search engine employee, but does anyone else actually care about these people? I don’t know…

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Motorcycle Not Starting? Let Me Help http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=75 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=75#comments Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:46:19 +0000 General http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=75 Want to learn how to jumpstart a motorcycle? Go here: http://motorcycles.about.com/cs/maintenance/ht/howtojumpstart.htm *** In my referral logs I frequently see people coming from search engines for the term how to jumpstart a motorcycle. And also for similar queries like jumpstarting a motorcycle. This is because I used that phrase ... Want to learn how to jumpstart a motorcycle? Go here: http://motorcycles.about.com/cs/maintenance/ht/howtojumpstart.htm
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In my referral logs I frequently see people coming from search engines for the term how to jumpstart a motorcycle. And also for similar queries like jumpstarting a motorcycle.

This is because I used that phrase as a test query for a couple of search engine reviews I did. But obviously people who end up on the Search Lounge looking for instructions on jump starting their bikes are going to be disappointed when all they find is a review of how some search engine handled that query.

So with that in mind here is a decent article from about.com about How to Jump Start Your Motorcycle. I hope this helps.

If you’re a blog writer and search engines are referring traffic for terms that have only a small mention on your site, how about being helpful and posting a good link to send people on their way.

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Everyone is a Creator and Every Creation Will be Indexed http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=72 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=72#comments Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:55:05 +0000 General http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=72 We are moving towards a world in which every form of communication is accessible and the cost of storing data is miniscule. Future historians will be dumbfounded by the massive amount of data available from our era because everyone is now a creator. If you’re not writing a blog, you’re ... We are moving towards a world in which every form of communication is accessible and the cost of storing data is miniscule. Future historians will be dumbfounded by the massive amount of data available from our era because everyone is now a creator. If you’re not writing a blog, you’re taking digital photos. If you’re not taking digital photos you’re leaving a trail in your clickstream through the web. If you don’t use the web you are creating text-retrievable data in your phone calls.

Standing in an airport taxi line listening to a woman blab about loud kids on her flight got me thinking about all these technologies that are aimed at fostering communication between people. Cell phones, text messaging, digital photography, blogs, etc. In general I’m for these new modes of communication that make everyone a creator, however it creates a challenge for search companies. Not only are search engines expected to index and retrieve bits of text from massive collections of blogs, for instance, but in the future search engines will be required to index and retrieve words from people’s voice communications. Because we are moving to a world in which every form of communication is perceived as creation, search engines are required to index and search every word that woman said. Yet what’s the point of archiving her complaints about a loud flight? It’s possible that it could be useful to her in the future, but most likely it won’t ever be and it will cloud and obscure useful information.

Right now I have the option to archive my IM chat sessions. When will I have this option for my phone calls? When I do the first thing I’ll do is categorize my conversations and voice mails into a directory. I’ll have a category for my wife, a category for parents with sub-categories for each parent, etc. Then people will create the technology to let me tag my phone calls so I can classify calls as “xmas gift list", “new year’s eve plans", etc. And then eventually I’ll be able to do full-text searching of each phone call so I can zoom in to the part I’m interested in. Beyond personal communications, companies will be able to record voice communications to their customers and then post those in a searchable format. I’ll search my ISP for the voice menu instructions about hooking up my DSL service.

OK, great, in the future I’ll be able to search voice conversations as well as web pages, blogs, my email, and my IM using one or several search interfaces. But is this a good thing? For each of these categories of information there will be those who exploit them for their own personal profit: spammers. They will figure out how to drive traffic to their content through each of these technologies. And so the search engines will have to not only index all that content, but they’ll also have to devise crime-fighting techniques to identify and remove from retrieval the spam. The engines are faced with removing the trivial as well as the nefarious. Same as now, but with new formats in the future. Controlled vocabularies and pre-defined structures, like the Library of Congress Subject Headings, are not faced with spam (though bias creeps in), but in this world, where everyone’s a creator, pre-defined taxonomies and ontologies are being stretched thin due to the massive scale of information, hence the rise of folksonomies.

And privacy? To have a private dialogue the only way will be face to face until people start walking around with voice recorders in their cell phones and then every face to face conversation will also be archived and retrievable. Is this really what we want? Is it enough to put access restrictions on our own private archives? No.

Librarians, archivists, search engines, and all other information professionals need to decide what to do with so much data. The only way I can see through this mess is a melding of open structures and controlled structures. There needs to be a layer that sits on top of open structures like flickr and Furl and helps to organize things. This is the role of information professionals: to help organize while not interfering too much. Build thesauri, bridge related concepts, point out broader and narrower terms, but not hamper users from defining their own tags for content. In that way we can identify the woman’s cell phone call about her flight for what it is: a daily conversation between two people not worthy of permanent preservation.

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Cities and Search Engines http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=71 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=71#comments Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:09:12 +0000 General http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=71 I'm reading a book by Joel Kotkin called The City. The author writes that cities have three common aspects that stretch across time and space. A city offers: 1. A sacred space for its citizens to come together for purposes of spirituality, camaraderie, and devotion to that which ... I’m reading a book by Joel Kotkin called The City. The author writes that cities have three common aspects that stretch across time and space.

A city offers:

    1. A sacred space for its citizens to come together for purposes of spirituality, camaraderie, and devotion to that which is greater than the individual.
    2. Security for its citizens.
    3. An environment conducive to commerce.

Historically all of these are pretty easy to see. In contemporary times #1 has been supplanted to some degree by secular things like civic pride, community organizations, public gatherings, and sports.

In the context of the web, search engines (portals?) provide these three things for us now. Let’s see if this works:

    1. Sacred space - People gather together through search engines based on shared interests and communities.
    2. Security - Users trust search engines to guide them safely through the web.
    3, Commerce - I think this is the easiest one to see. Search engines facilitate 21st century commerce.

Am I stretching the analogy too far?
Physical location means less than ever and I wonder what the future of the city will be.

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Internet Librarian 2005: Google Print http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=70 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=70#comments Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:46:14 +0000 General Internet Librarian 2005 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=70 Last night's evening session was called "Google-brary: The Status Quo of Tomorrow's MEGALIBRARY." It was a Google love/hate fest. Some librarians in the audience seemed to feel Google is helping people with access to information, while other librarians were concerned about the monopolization of information. However, it ... Last night’s evening session was called “Google-brary: The Status Quo of Tomorrow’s MEGALIBRARY.” It was a Google love/hate fest. Some librarians in the audience seemed to feel Google is helping people with access to information, while other librarians were concerned about the monopolization of information. However, it was also pointed out that Google is not the only player in this area and that Amazon and the Open Content Alliance are also in the mix. But the biggest gaping hole was that the Internet Archive wasn’t discussed. Brewster Kahle and his organization are the real pioneers in this space and although the big companies are stepping in now and are getting the limelight, none of this would be possible without IA. (See my review from last November about the Wayback Machine.)

Adam Smith, the Google Product Manager on the panel, did a fine job I thought. It’s not easy being in front of many hundred librarians. He obviously takes issues around digitization seriously, though he also kept to the company line about wanting “to do what’s right". I think they’d be better not repeating these types of statements all the time. It’s starting to feel a bit forced. But in any case, I think it’s great that he agreed to be on the panel. Too bad Amazon and the Open Content Alliance didn’t also have panelists. Too bad Brewster Kahle wasn’t a panelist!

Some news that was announced last night was that Microsoft has agreed to join the Open Content Alliance along with the Internet Archive, Yahoo! and other organizations. According to the information I learned last night, Microsoft is going to pay for the digitization of 150,000 books.

Some random good quotes from the panel:
* The most requested interlibrary loan book last year was the Da Vinci Code. Would it just be cheaper for libraries to buy a used copy from Amazon and send it to a patron than do ILL?
* In the future, Internet Librarian will simply called the Librarian Conference.

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Internet Librarian 2005: Library Blogs - Ethics and Guidelines http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=69 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=69#comments Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:02:58 +0000 General Internet Librarian 2005 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=69 Karen Schneider, who writes Free Range Librarian and who also runs the venerable Librarian's Internet Index (note new name) gave a talk about blogging ethics. Although the Search Lounge is about search, and I don't want to make it a blog about blogs, I did want to mention ... Karen Schneider, who writes Free Range Librarian and who also runs the venerable Librarian’s Internet Index (note new name) gave a talk about blogging ethics. Although the Search Lounge is about search, and I don’t want to make it a blog about blogs, I did want to mention some things she said on this topic.

New terms (to me this first one was new, but a quick search on Yahoo returns many matches, including this news.com article from February, 2005):
Astroturf: a blog that looks like a personal blog, but is really sponsored by a corporation. I often wonder, for instance, about blogs I see dedicated to 1970s TV shows. The term can also be applied to political groups who start fake grassroots blogs.

biblioblogosphere - the world of librarian blogs.

Good quote:
“There is nothing more pathetic than a librarian who gets the facts wrong.”
The context for this quote was her adamant insistence that we as librarians fact-check everything we publish.

Another good point she made was about transparency and how important it is to provide “About Me” sections. I totally agree. It doesn’t have to be an extensive bio, but at least provide a brief paragraph so that I can at least think I’m reading a real person’s writing and not astroturf or a splog.

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Internet Librarian 2005: Mary Ellen Bates 30 Search Tips in 40 Minutes http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=68 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=68#comments Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:56:46 +0000 General Internet Librarian 2005 http://www.searchlounge.org/index.php?p=68 Mary Ellen Bates, gave a talk called “30 Search Tips in 40 Minutes.” I attended the same talk last year and I highly recommend her talks. As well as sharing cool new sites she focuses on usefulness. Some highlights: *She mentioned Exalead as having some of the ... Mary Ellen Bates, gave a talk called “30 Search Tips in 40 Minutes.” I attended the same talk last year and I highly recommend her talks. As well as sharing cool new sites she focuses on usefulness. Some highlights:

*She mentioned Exalead as having some of the best advanced search syntax capabilities for web searching, including phonetic and approximate spelling. (See my review of Exalead from last November.
*http://www.housingmaps.com/ - maps Craigslist real estate listings to Google Maps so you can see on a map where the listings are located.
*She mentioned, by my count, 11 different Yahoo! products and services, such as Y!Q, podcasts.yahoo.com, Konfabulator, MyWeb, Yahoo! Search Subscriptions, Site Explorer, and more.
*Amazon’s Statistically Improbably Phrases - a data mining feature for searching books that shows which phrases in a book are “statistically improbable”. These phrases provide more unique index terms and then let users find other books with the same terms.

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